2012 - met an old friend up on San Juan trail - he looked down at the Flux and said "Hey Rich, the 90's called, and said they wanted their components back!". Pretty cold, I'd say. But it did get me thinking. A super benefactor laid a slightly used set of Cross Max SL wheels on me, and the Tubless Bug bit me big time. Check the bottom two pics- Got a pair of specialized elite aradillo tires, and I cant WAIT to try em out! For sure the wheels are much lighter !